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Posted - 2013.09.01 21:44:00 -
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Mavado V Noriega wrote:Being one of the few ppl dumb enough to skill into a prototype commando suit i thought id give some feedback on the many shortcomings of this suit.
1. Low Shield recharge rate.....not kool. In a hectic game like DUST u give one of the squishiest suits **** poor shield regen.
2. Needs more CPU and PG tbqh: reason being that i should at least be able to comfortably fit a proto weapon and an advanced 2ndary weapon on this suit....currently u struggle to fit 2 advanced weapons its a joke and takes away from the main strength that this suit suppose to have which is versatility
3. Moar Mod slots plz. Absolutely sad that this suit is a complete joke at standard and Adv lvls and only semi-playable at proto.
More mod slots add to giving the suit more tank, its already a heavy frame suit so its got the largest hitbox why make it squishy as hell?
I honestly believe the commando can be one of the more fun suits to play and a real game changer suit in PC if tweaked but atm DUST is still all about caldari assaults and caldari logistics
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Posted - 2013.09.01 22:04:00 -
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I have Lv 4 almost EVERYTHING passive and these are the stats between 3 ADV Amarrian Suits and how i have them modded (these OF COURSE include Passive skills plus modules):
Commando:
Shield regen : 10
Stamina:183
Shields:382
Armor:300
Weapons: ADv SCrambler Rifle
EXO-5 Mass driver
Sprint speed: 6.4
Assault :
Shield Regen:20
Stamina:210
Armor:303
Shields:380
Weapons: Six Kin SMG
Adv Swarm Launchers
Sprint Speed:7.5
Heavy:
Shield Regen: 20
Stamina:131
Armor:568
Shields:650
Weapons: Kaalakiota FG
ADV Assault SMG
Spint SPeed: 5.7
as we can see the Commando suit DOES NOT HAVE a lot going for it:
The Assault Is faster, has more stamina,more shield REGEN and, with the complex shield ext equipped, even have +1 EHP than the commando. Assault also has a Equipment slot , MORE CPU/PG and smaller hitbox.Plus, grenade slot.
Advantages for Commando: ''2 light weapons'' and 250 Melee damage.
Against the heavy.
MY heavy is clearly superior than the commando suit in EHP. 682 against 1218. Also the heavy has more Shield regen,CPU / PG . The advantage of the commando to equip 2 light weapons CAN be compared with using a HEavy weapon.PLUS the heavy has a Grenade slot AND the CPU/PG to use it.SAME HITBOX.
Advantages for the commando: MORE SPEED (but not enough to save you), more stamina, 250 melee damage.
So at the moment i just cant understand why i would prefer using a commando other than playing in Hard mode for the lulz... |
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Posted - 2013.09.01 22:45:00 -
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Crow Splat wrote:Fizzer94 wrote:Stop trying to use it like an assault suit or heavy suit. Its a support suit, its probably the best sniper and swarm launcher suit in the game. Its meant for lone wolfing to the side of the main conflict and doing its own thing, hence the name "commando". Its not meant to be a suit you take into the middle of battle and expect to stomp people with, that's what sentinels and basic heavies are for.
Use your weapon slots to cover your weaknesses.
Edit: I will say however that they should get an equipment slot(if they don't already have one, I can't remember) I think there is a bit of confusion on just what a "commando" is. Commando does not mean secret squirrel, lone-wolf, behind-enemy-lines badass. A true commando would be more like SWAT. Armored up and lots of guns. They ride up fast in a car or fast rope in over an objective and overwhelm the defenses with superior fire power. When they are done they mount up and do it again. A commando suit needs to be like a rapid response team. A small team sitting in an LAV waiting to ride in where the fighting is the toughest and overwhelm the opposing side. Or rapidly capture a point left less protected. They need vehicle support and should always be attacking. They win one firefight and move on to the next one.
as it is they dont even have PG/CPU to equip 2 decent light weapons.. |
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Posted - 2013.09.02 21:44:00 -
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Mavado V Noriega wrote:Heinrich Jagerblitzen wrote:Fizzer94 wrote:Stop trying to use it like an assault suit or heavy suit. Its a support suit, its probably the best sniper and swarm launcher suit in the game. Its meant for lone wolfing Wrong. From the dev blog: "You could sport a shotgun and assault rifle for maximum effectiveness in short- and medium-range engagements." Now the suit is terrible at actually doing this, but you can't in any way argue that the suit was only intended to sit on a rooftop. It was definitely meant to utilize its dual-wield in a great number of scenarios, including front-line fighting. I think the main problem with the commando is lack of mobility to keep up with Logi and Assault suits. With enough speed to be a solid member of a mobile squad, it could hold out a lot better as its EHP aren't all that different from many other front-line suits that aren't completely filled with tank mods. I'd add a bit more fitting (to squeeze maximum effectiveness from each slot) and move the proto second high to being a second low, and tweak the base speed to match Logistics. The differences are subtle, but would go a long way towards making this a viable and interesting choice. ^^This is my recommendation after extensive testing with the commando suit, including proto variants. My preference is a Scrambler rifle / Mass Driver combo. :O thats my fav combo as well Id be happy with more mobility and 1 more low slot for proto tbh STD is awful with no lows STD - 1 high , 1 low ADV - 2 high , 1 low Proto - 2 high, 2 low Buff the shield regen and movement. At the end of the day the hitbox is still large since its a heavy frame so its not gonna be a better assault than an assault since its still easy to hit it. Think these minour changes along with some more CPU/PG and the suit can truly shine cuz tbqh its one of the only unique suits lol. Some weapons like swarms and Plasma cannons and Scrambler Rifles take up alot of PG and CPU so tryin to fit a proto in that and and advanced 2nd weapon is impossible without further gimpin the suit
I use 3 commando loadouts:
Mass driver / Scrambler Rifle
Swarm Launcher / Assault Scrambler R.
Sniper / swarm
On another note. Since CCP doesnt want us to have many slots it should be
STD : 1 low + 1 HIGH
ADV : 1 low + 2 High
PROTO: 2 Low + 2 High
Here the ''idea'' of being a solid suit design for WEAPON cusomization applies.BUT with this buffs both the ADV and PRoto get to work , somewhat. This should be added plus a slight SPeed Buff, Basic Armor buff, Shield regen buff (10ps , SRSLY) , and CPU/PG increase.
EVEN WITH ALL THIS, i doubt the commando would be an overused suit. |
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